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  • MacRumors
    Jul 13, 10:21 PM
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    Macworld has posted a roundup of recent analyst speculation (http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/07/13/blurayapple/index.php) on the possibility of Apple using Blu-ray in forthcoming products. Most analysts seem to agree that Apple will first include the technology on its professional "Mac Pro" line before transitioning it to its consumer products.

    "Apple’s past practices favor bringing new optical technologies to professional systems first,” said Jupiter Research senior analyst Joe Wilcox. “DVD-RAM and DVD-R formats are excellent examples.”

    The exact timing of Blu-ray's introduction into the Mac Pro is uncertain, however.

    Ross Rubin, director of analysis at market-research firm NPD Group, agrees that Apple will work with the professional machines first. However, noting that Intel-based pro desktops have yet to appear, he predicts Blu-ray drives won’t wind up in Apple systems for a few more months.

    “January would be good—the timing for that would work out pretty well,” Rubin said. “It comes down to the introduction cycle, but we would see it in desktops first, no doubt.”

    Blu-ray is a next-generation optical disk format that can hold up to 25 GB of data per layer compared to rival HD DVD's 15 GB per layer. In April, TDK produced a 6 layer Blu-ray disk (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/04/28/tdk_200gb_blu-ray_disc/) that could hold up to 200 GB when the single-layer maximum was pushed to 33 GB. Currently, Blu-ray players are scarce and cost over $1000 USD, and the format has seen several delays. Much of the industry is watching Sony's Playstation 3 (http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/default.html) game console which is expected to arrive in November 2006 and should push Blu-ray prices down.

    Apple joined Blu-ray's Board of Directors (http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/03/10/bluray/index.php) in March of 2005.

    Digg This (http://digg.com/apple/Mac_Pro_And_Bluray_Speculation)





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  • seashellz
    Jul 18, 01:25 PM
    1. The reports are coming in that the BR DVD picture is....well, lousy-while the HD picture is said to be primo. You can buy an HD player NOW (and discs-soon)for under $500.
    For all intents and purposes, $1000 Blu Ray players are as scarce as George Bush's IQ numbers-if there are even any to be had at all...

    2. *VERY Important: SONY has yet to produce a single BR disc under the promised new HD Codec 1- the prime reason to buy BR HD in the first place-the ones they are selling now are just 'prototype', being rushed to market so they can say "We were first!" which is like selling a car without spark plugs-youll just have to be patient until some arrive.

    Yes, a "Better Future" is just around the corner, as they like to say defensively-well I say- PRODUCE THEM-then we will believe-other wise, it is VAPORWARE.
    So you are in effect buying v.1 BR discs down at Best Buy-while v.2 discs are still being worked on-possibly to arrive by Christmas.
    Who would buy a BR disc that will be obsolete in a few months-that is-if the Codec 1 discs ever arrive at all-?
    They are having manufacturing problems with these still- [Corpspeak: "we are 'fine tuning' them"] which is the reason for the delay.

    2. SONY JUST GOT KICKED IN THE BALLS #1: (Reuters) a UK high court ruling Friday declared that the the giant SONY/BMG merger is not legal, and must be broken apart, worldwide.
    If this ruling stands, SONY will be sucked dry, in order to either fight this, or to seperate, as they have streamlined and folded the two companies in together so tightly-like two Octopi in battle-or love, that it will drain much time, money and resources from the company to fight the ruling, or to re-separate as two distinct entities should they lose...it could in fact, this SINK SONY.

    Because of this ruling, Warner Bros. have already backed out of a deal to merge with EMI.
    And while spokemen at EMI declared 'This will be no problem,'
    Warner Bros. spokesfolks retorted with-'We wouldnt bet the farm on that if we were you'
    The deal is on HOLD and possibly withdrawn.

    Anyway, this will be a HUGE drain on SONYs already shaky financial structure-they are literally betting the whole company on Blue Ray-hoping it wont become another Betamax. There is also much infighting in the ranks of SONY, according to reports. (also, they themselves admit they have lost 3% marketshare worldwide, since the merger (If thats so, why would they APPEAL the decision?!)

    3. SONY JGKITB #2: Reports are coming from the chip manufacturing plant that for every FIVE PSP-3 chips created, only ONE is usable-SONY still has to pay for the other chips. (Wednesdays Gizmo.com)
    (they are too complex, and they are rushing this whole thing to market too fast)
    What this means is that SONYs expected cash influx from selling these will be nill-in fact, this will bleed the company big time.

    What it will mean for the consumer, is that the PSP-3 may be very hard to find, as there will be supply and distribution problems, if this is not corrected PRONTO.
    SONY was counting on being able to flood the landscape with these in order to better 'push' BR.
    But apparaently not any longer.

    And we all know what it means when a desired product is scarce-much higher prices.

    SONY has alienated much of the CD community with the secret DRM implant from a few months ago.
    They have alienated much of the DVD community with subpar DVD releases of late.
    ie: too many pan and scan releases, or cancelled titles.

    And will they finally decide on flagging these BR discs so the folks with non-upconverting HDMI Monitors (or no HDMI outs at all) will be unable to play their discs in prime mode, if at all?
    If they do-all you thousands of folks with the non-upconverting/compliant "HD" Bigscreen TVs will have to donate them to GOODWILL, and buy a new one.

    While these trial discs dont have the feature yet, the *whole rational* in BRs security architecture was to keep
    people from copying or PLAYING 'unauthorized' discs.

    When SONY finally chooses to implement this essential (in their minds) baseline feature:

    1.You will be unable to download BR movies onto your computer from disc or Internet.
    2.You will need to connect to the internet through your player to get "permission" from a SONY server to play any title-not just SONY-Columbia movies.
    I do not know if HD discs/players have the same feature, but doubt it.

    Aside from the intrusion into your privacy, your player would be shut down via a signal from SONY if you tried to play a 'pirated', a backup disc, or one copied/borrowed from a friend. (It is not clear whether you will be locked out from that title only, or your WHOLE player will be shut down-and become a piece of junk-until the situation is rectified with SONY over an 800 number-remember, however, -thought criminals-er, pirates-you will have no reason to complain-or have recourse-what you did was ILLEGAL, so no amount of whining may save you-or your useless player.
    (While this is still conjecture-it is a likely and very real possibility-as they spent billion on just this sort of feature)
    They WILL NOT be burned by a cracked CSS code and wholesale DVD copying again.

    They are serious about "piracy"-and your friends borrowed copy of a title-maybe even if legit-will shut down your player just as if playing a dubious Chinese-made copy of PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN disc bought today.

    I dont think APPLE or anyone, should jump into BR just yet-It is not OUR duty to shore up a flagging, unproven-or any-HD format.

    Let the war of the marketplace and the better player decide, before you buy into another potential Laserdisc or Betamax-whether BR or HD, then make a decision

    It clearly looked for a moment that HD was the underdog, but that has changed overnight.
    While at this point I have a slight bias towards HD for no particular reason,
    I am sitting out ALL HD out until:

    1. ONE format emerges as the clear winner.
    2. Second generation of players and discs are available - a year or two from now-and most of the kinks are worked out.




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  • jimmyjoemccrow
    May 4, 07:34 AM
    No, those aren't the best possible choices. Those are probably the worst possible choice.

    http://www.wakeinteractive.com/blog/view/yes_no_dialogs_are_confusing/

    The examples given in that link are extremely dumb. Nobody is going anywhere when they are at their PC. They are not being forced to make a spur of the moment decision when they use their computer, they have time to sit and read the dialogue and understand the consequences of their choices. We are not talking about reading the whole works of Shakespeare and we aren't talking about an annoying pop up every 5 minutes. There is absolutely no harm in educating the user a little.

    The example of the lift buttons is already present in the OS anyway, for example the arrows on a scrollbar.





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  • aznguyen316
    Sep 14, 10:40 PM
    The BB I got my Griffin case from also had a couple other griffin gloss ones of hard plastic in bright blue, black - although it was more smoke/gray, and I forget, one other color. You can check stock on bestbuy.com search for ipod 4th and it'll come up with a few cases and etc for it. then do check store inventory. good luck!





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  • Chris Bangle
    Sep 5, 09:06 AM
    9AM Eastern is the most obvious time to do it, I guess. (But, to be pedantic, did you mean 2pm GMT or BST? ;) :) )

    I time i meant was London time which is the same as GMT but i dont know th difference between GMT and British Standard time. Come on new imacs....

    Apple you morans, no updates to the store, my life is over.





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  • itsmeGAV
    Jan 7, 10:07 AM
    I was spending a hell of a lot of money a week on petrol, so it's possibly the best move I've ever made in all honesty! I will eventually buy a Mk4 R32 for show purposes only!





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  • liketom
    Jul 19, 05:03 PM
    The great numbers shown today just prove that this is the perfect moment to bury MS once and for all in the OS war...OS X is by far the best system, and Longsight is still more than 6 months away...Microsoft is doomed.
    Apple has had a better OS IMO for years and i wish i'd switched much sooner then i did -

    LongShight i think you mean Vista will be here next year and will be a big cash cow for Microsoft - will it work as well as Mac OS ? no,will it be better ? no ...but people will buy it and still get viruses and spyware

    and whilst there are doing that i will still keep buying Mac's and adding to there Quarterly Profits :D

    Well, he clearly dismissed all current MP3/Phone integration setups and said that they're not just sitting around. It's no outright admission, but I'd say that's pretty revealing -- if he was refering to iTunes on a phone, I feel like he would've had a talking point ready for it. This seemed more like a "er, I just backed myself into this sentence" type thing.
    true - after posting i thought this too - well maybe, but i'll not get my hopes up like the Powerbook G5 thing;)





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  • gugy
    Nov 15, 10:35 AM
    cool
    it's coming soon to a mac near you!





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  • faroZ06
    Apr 3, 01:32 AM
    The way I write? This has anything to do with anything?

    And again, the "evidence" you keep suggesting exists does not represent what is actually the case. Even within this thread, there are several people telling you they have no issues with their device. I don't have any issues either.

    I hate to use the well known argument we often see on these forums, but you will almost always hear from the people who have issues with their products.

    You will almost never see threads or comments from people that don't really have a reason to exclaim to the world that their device is perfect. Thus, we see an inflation of negative threads as compared to positive threads, and ignorant people take this to mean there is a wide-spread and critical flaw with all of the devices. Also, the negative comment is more distinctive, and thus more memorable than the positive one- again adding to the illusion you seem to be buying into.

    Some idiot started calling me stupid for using Wikipedia to look up info about NT and MS DOS. I feel your annoyance ;)





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  • calderone
    Apr 3, 08:40 PM
    It should be an option, at least. You can hide the toolbar in windowed mode, so you should be able to in fullscreen; I can't see Apple leaving it in its current implementation.

    I can. Full screen is in large part based on the iOS, if that holds true the address bar is staying.





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  • iMeowbot
    Nov 29, 01:56 PM
    yeah, they will have a camera built in so they can film the new ipod commercials using us unsuspecting living room dancers as the subject:D


    Okay, let's skip the camera.

    iTV looks more like a platform than a complete product in itself. Andy Neff also writes "Apple noted that it has a number of products currently in development that are likely to be introduced over several years."

    Once upon a time, Apple used to talk about "digital lifestyle devices" or some such, but didn't release much past iPod and iSight. Perhaps this box is what they have in mind to make other gadgets go.

    What would be gadgets you don't have today that would be cool if they could easily tap into the network without having to deal with a computer?





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  • bdkennedy1
    Apr 19, 11:02 AM
    FINALLY! I've been holding off for over a year upgrading my 2007 iMac because of the ancient ports. Give me my Thunderbolt!





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  • iJohnHenry
    Apr 20, 04:58 PM
    Yes, I love driving manual transmission cars. It's fun.

    Yeah, but the others should know that you rely on public transportation, day to day.

    Manual is fun, until you spend a couple of hours, or more, commuting every day.





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  • Yaboze
    Mar 26, 10:57 PM
    It looks very cool and I'm impressed by the 1080p video. I didn't think there was enough video memory to do that.

    The iPad + HDMI adapter looks a little awkward though. I think a cooler solution would be to have bluetooth controller support, like PS3 controllers or maybe even use the iPhone for the controller via bluetooth.

    Either way, it's impressive. Not quite Xbox 360/PS3 but definitely better than the Wii.





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  • jessica.
    Nov 28, 09:11 AM
    I haven't started yet either...... just taking advantage of this weekend's sales. :D

    Also, I just bought this office chair from Office Depot:
    http://static.www.odcdn.com/pictures/us/od/sk/lg/301437_sk_lg.jpg
    It's ACA approved, so my back also approves.

    I found a 20% off coupon online, so yay.

    Didn't you just buy a chair?





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  • whooleytoo
    Jul 18, 06:41 AM
    OK, I'm just going to do the maths...

    Let's see, divide by 1024.....carry the one....add 6...average speed of an unladen swallow...take the inverse and...

    The answer is: Very BIG!!

    :p

    With those math skills let me guess.. you work for NASA? Or British rail? Or counting votes in US elections? (Or in the Irish government.. "one for you, two for me, one for you.." ;) )

    How big are the music videos? I can't download them, so I can't determine the size, but if you knew the size of a music video, and you know its duration is roughly 5 minutes, you can extrapolate from that the approximate size of a 1:30 movie (i.e. multiply file size by 18). Multiply by 8 to convert to bits, then if you have (say) a 1Mbps connection, the math is easy peasy.





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  • Lurchdubious
    Nov 25, 07:28 PM
    Yeah, I know, It's a much bigger case than a simple eye glasses case, But a Ferrari is a much faster car than the speed limits on any high way in the US?

    (not sure, if that's a perfectly accurate analogy but it made sense to me)


    Yeah that didn't make sense. ;)

    FWIW, I really love Pelican cases. I'll be buying one soon to put a couple guns in. Kudos to you for taking care of your $h!t.





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  • DeSnousa
    Aug 6, 08:47 PM
    I'm sorry I'm really slow, I don't get the slogan :(

    "Mac OS X Leopard, Introducing Vista 2.0"

    Do they mean that Leopard is years ahead of Vista, like if it were to be like Windows next version OS :confused:

    :o





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  • AFPoster
    Mar 22, 01:10 PM
    I don't believe you, that's my opinion.

    I think thats why I said in the first sentence, "that's my opinion".





    leekohler
    Mar 22, 10:38 AM
    I don't think that apple should be in the business of approving apps.

    I think they should do their best to categorize them and create methods to protect certain age groups from accessing inappropriate apps.

    But otherwise get out of the business of approving 'this' while denying 'that'.

    Agreed. This should not be available to minors. That should be the only restriction.





    whatsleep
    Jan 4, 12:12 PM
    Here are the things I expect to happen:




    MacBoobsPro
    Nov 28, 10:04 AM
    Tits Up very zoon!

    They should of marketed it as a Video player that plays music. That way it distinguishes itself from the iPod which is a music player that plays video. Sounds crazy but in marketing terms they are two completely different things and MS could of capitalised on this a little.





    Chef Medeski
    Jan 1, 07:58 PM
    Pretty excited about this Stevenote.

    * iTV
    * Leopard
    * iLife '07

    The rumored stuff this year is all retarded. "Maybe we'll all get Apple phones!" And maybe I'll give a flying #$%^ at a rolling donut. I have a phone, and I spend approximately 3 minutes on it per month. My wife and I are thinking of going prepaid for this reason. The last thing I'm going to do is buy a danged smartphone.

    Gah. It's all silly.
    A phone is best used to make phone calls not for music. If you want to listen to music theres a nano... I dont like the idea of putting them together compromising each other.

    Phone Compromises:
    Worst reception or larger size due to the added multimedia.
    Buttons are geared towards music instead of calls and stuff that is useful for making calls.

    iPod Compromises:
    Shorter battery life than iPod
    No Line-out for superior audio quality.
    Worst navigation for selecting songs.

    I like a great phone and a great iPod. Not an alright phone and alright iPod in one place so I cant just carry one or the other.





    Doenertier
    Sep 1, 11:54 AM
    No more than $2,499/ �1,799. With the amount of internal room you would get behind a 23" monitor, Apple would have no problem putting in 4 RAM slots and a fast GPU (but I doubt Apple would do a fast GPU anyway).

    My guess: 17" dropping to $1,099, 20" to $1,499

    $1,999 with more hd, a gig of ram and, hopefully, (i do doubt it though as well) a nice gpu (at least as bto, unlikely though for the imac).

    I'd order one right away! :cool: